Comments on: Ruby on Rails < First Impressions http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/ John Nunemaker\'s thoughts and such Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:19:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joe http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 Joe Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:40 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-1500 I'm captivated by Ruby and Rails, and have both books. Whilst they taught me everything I know, they most certainly did not teach me everything they know. I've huge resepct for Dave Thomas and co but they do skim every now and again. I do get the impression that they more than occasionally suggest we RTFM and in come cases RTFS. In an instructional book, that's not ideal. Things like the iterator & yeild, probably one of the most fundamental and nouanced areas of ruby; or the Date selector form helper in Rails. Both skimmed over a (in record time for iterator). Nevertheless the books, language and framework are absolutely amazing. I learned Ruby first – i reccomend people do too. Not only does it help with 'getting' rails but you might miss out on some amazing things otherwise.. I’m captivated by Ruby and Rails, and have both books. Whilst they taught me everything I know, they most certainly did not teach me everything they know. I’ve huge resepct for Dave Thomas and co but they do skim every now and again. I do get the impression that they more than occasionally suggest we RTFM and in come cases RTFS. In an instructional book, that’s not ideal. Things like the iterator & yeild, probably one of the most fundamental and nouanced areas of ruby; or the Date selector form helper in Rails. Both skimmed over a (in record time for iterator). Nevertheless the books, language and framework are absolutely amazing. I learned Ruby first – i reccomend people do too. Not only does it help with ‘getting’ rails but you might miss out on some amazing things otherwise..

]]> By: JStam dot com » Blog Archive » Ruby on Rails Impressions http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-831 JStam dot com » Blog Archive » Ruby on Rails Impressions Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:54:42 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-831 [...] John Nunemaker’s Ruby on Rails < First Impressions was a very interesting read. [...] [...] John Nunemaker’s Ruby on Rails < First Impressions was a very interesting read. [...]

]]> By: John Nunemaker http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-186 John Nunemaker Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:48:02 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-186 Jason: I just purchased the pdf/dead tree combo last night. I cannot wait to go through it. When I first commented I didn't realize that the pdf version was available. Thanks for the reassurance on my purchase though. Brent: Yes, I saw that the other day. I am going to give it a go with RoR and if it doesn't work out (yeah right!) then I will check out Django more closely. Jason: I just purchased the pdf/dead tree combo last night. I cannot wait to go through it. When I first commented I didn’t realize that the pdf version was available. Thanks for the reassurance on my purchase though.

Brent: Yes, I saw that the other day. I am going to give it a go with RoR and if it doesn’t work out (yeah right!) then I will check out Django more closely.

]]> By: Brent O'Connor http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Brent O'Connor Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:32:06 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-184 I tried going through the Rails tutorial once and got stuck with installing MySQL on my PowerBook. I plan to give it another go when I have a spare minute again. Also, you might be interested in checking out the <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="nofollow">Django Framework</a>. It's not a clone of Rails but from what I hear it has a lot of similar ideas with some things that Rails doesn't have. Django is appealing to me a little more since the language it uses is Python. Python is one of the main languages that Google uses for all their websites. Ruby from what I hear is like Perl and has about 100 different ways of doing the same thing. Python on the other hand is more structured and therefore produces cleaner code. All of this is from what I've read so far, so none of it comes from my actual experience. Anyway, thanks for the reminder that I'm falling behind in what's hot in the coding seen! :) I tried going through the Rails tutorial once and got stuck with installing MySQL on my PowerBook. I plan to give it another go when I have a spare minute again.

Also, you might be interested in checking out the Django Framework. It’s not a clone of Rails but from what I hear it has a lot of similar ideas with some things that Rails doesn’t have. Django is appealing to me a little more since the language it uses is Python. Python is one of the main languages that Google uses for all their websites. Ruby from what I hear is like Perl and has about 100 different ways of doing the same thing. Python on the other hand is more structured and therefore produces cleaner code. All of this is from what I’ve read so far, so none of it comes from my actual experience.

Anyway, thanks for the reminder that I’m falling behind in what’s hot in the coding seen! :)

]]> By: Jason http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Jason Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:03:17 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-183 Forget waiting for the dead tree version, buy the PDF/dead tree combo and get the PDF version now. If you're just starting out with Rails it's worth the dough. 500+ pages of tutorial, reference, and best practices. http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ See 'Beta Book: Agile Web Development with Rails: A Pragmatic Guide + Buy now (BETA PDF + Paper book when released). See BETA Book Faq.' It's not actually in BETA any longer. Forget waiting for the dead tree version, buy the PDF/dead tree combo and get the PDF version now. If you’re just starting out with Rails it’s worth the dough. 500+ pages of tutorial, reference, and best practices.

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/

See ‘Beta Book: Agile Web Development with Rails: A Pragmatic Guide + Buy now (BETA PDF + Paper book when released). See BETA Book Faq.’

It’s not actually in BETA any longer.

]]> By: John Nunemaker http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-182 John Nunemaker Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:47:01 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-182 Yeah, I saw it and almost purchased it the same night. I noticed that it is only pre-order on Amazon.com right now. As soon as I can actually order it and get it I will be buying it. Yeah, I saw it and almost purchased it the same night. I noticed that it is only pre-order on Amazon.com right now. As soon as I can actually order it and get it I will be buying it.

]]> By: Marlon http://addictedtonew.com/archives/77/ruby-on-rails-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-181 Marlon Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:44:19 +0000 http://addictedtonew.com/?p=77#comment-181 Do yourself a favor and get the book "Agile Development with Rails". Your jaw will drop even farther. I can verify the reaction as I'm a CF developer too. Do yourself a favor and get the book “Agile Development with Rails”. Your jaw will drop even farther. I can verify the reaction as I’m a CF developer too.

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